The official 2023 Women's Volleyball Roster for the Fordham University Rams When wed fight with the black guys, it was more or less hit and run. He got killed a few years later. When you left your house you had to worry about somebody grabbing you and kicking your ass. lol" Another former gang member from the Garrisons had this to say about the Duckies: "If you were planning to visit the Botanical Gardens in the Bronx you needed to concern yourself with the "Duck(ie)s." Legend has it, if you are visiting the Bronx Botanical Gardens and blast out a 'Duckie Whistle', Duckies will show up to greet you till this day! After a while, I realized that theynot just them, other clubs toowere being paid by the landlords to burn the buildings for the insurance. First, five guys would go into a club and do a dance routine. We were fighting with everybody. One of the bullets hit Montuoro, hitting him in the aorta, killing him. It was a black guy who did it to him, in a fight over a girl. THE 5TH (EAST,TREMONT AND MAPES AVE.) area in the 1970's: THE BLACK SPADES, PEACE MAKERS, HARLEM TURKS, 7 IMMORTALS, P.O.W.E.R. They cornered him, stabbed him three times, and shot him in the ass. They parked the Caddy and settled in at Section 17 of Orchard Beach which at the time was divided into 27 sections (now it is divided into 13 sections). Such rumors would often bring along a large police presence, and long disruptions. We went to Seward Park High School, and it was mostly Jews. The memories are all roughly the same, or close to it. Police break up gang rumble in the making on a Saturday night in Fordham Baldies: As their name suggests, they are all bald, reportedly to prevent their hair from getting in their eyes during a fight. I dont want to glorify it, because for todays youth theres nothing to glorify in gangs, but back then it was what we did to survive. When he died, my brother Carlos took over. There was one Irish kid, I think, and one black kid. The film is based on the novel of the same name by Richard Price; its screenplay was written by Philip Kaufman and his wife Rose. If I had to stick you, I would stick you. So our style of dress and everything was like them. We were able to do that, whereas the newcomers werent. Me and another Unknown Biker were convicted for it. . bayonets, brass knuckles, and garrison belts before officers swoop The area between Pleasant and 1st, and blocks between1st and 2nd were predominately Italian. All those clubs that were fighting back then hang out together now. You go to parties and see a lot of the same faces. You wanna have a game of football? or sometimes wed say, F youse, were gonna come down and kick your asses. When we were drinking, wed scream down at them, Hey, you fuckin black bastards! Wed say something racial, you know? Id be there for a few hours. Our big thing was buying cough medicine. Even the cops told my mother one time they knew I didnt have nothing to do with it. From the Jewish girls mostly, not from Catholic girlsnot when I was a kid. The Spanish guys were different. I have very fond memories of all the people I met there. That was East New York. Its like a family, or the police department, or the priesthood. The Jewish part of East Harlem was mostly west of 2nd Avenue. Only Chinese guys did opium. Here's the spotify link:https://open.spotify.com/artist/0FJNuMjFZHeQKJXR0DlmzX?si=RjpC0Rx4SpWB7sXFlct-Qg\u0026utm_source=copy-link\u0026dl_branch=1\u0026nd=1 Clubs may be doing their dirt, but the people on the block aint bitching because they do good for the block. When I was in Spanish Harlem, the guys in gangs wore silk jackets with their name on the front and the club name on the back. I remember a particular time when a group of us girls had a rumble with a gang called the Seven Immortals. It was all music and sex and everybody getting high. A lot of my buddies went in. Before the pill, you mostly just had blowjobs. Terror, cross-eyed, 150 pounds, six foot four is the war machine of the Fordham Baldies. I proposed some sections, but there is still lots of work to be done. But I never did. We never went crazy in our neighborhood, and whoever did, they would hear about it from us the next day. Next thing you knew, youd be fighting. When they started with the knives, we started with the zip guns. Puerto Ricans were moving into East Harlem at greater rates as the 1950s progressed. If you had war with somebody, then you could walk around their block wearing your colors, trying to be funny. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the bald eagle and had the duck's ass or "D.A." hairstyle later made famous by . Thats how the whole biker thing came about first. This was our life. Everyone was ready to enjoy the wind, sun and surf. formed. All of a sudden wed start hitting each other. I left it, but recommend changing that line. We were so fuckin' broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. Gone is the cluttered window offerings of the candy store. From time to time, wed bump into them and theyd make fun of us like, Hey, we got your park. SM28, Mount Carmel Candy Store Home of the Best New York Egg Creams. We were so fuckin broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. You werent even allowed to kick the guy once he was down. They made us have a big meeting in Junior High School 73. 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Film Details Also Known As Wanderers MPAA Rating R Genre Adaptation Comedy Drama Period Release Date 1979 Distribution Company KINO LORBER/ORION PICTURES Technical Specs Duration 1h 53m Sound Stereo Color Color (Technicolor) Theatrical Aspect Ratio 1.66 : 1 On that day the Baldies happened to be in Section 11 and when someone asked for help, they proceeded to Section 17 to inform the Red Wings that this was their area. They had some young girls on like Oprah or something who said that. I mean, I could have been arrested for date rape a million times. So the guys said, If you dont do it, were gonna strip you. And thats where the war began. If we had a problem between us, wed all go meet over at City Hall and wear different color bandanas so people knew where you were from. You had to have respect. All except the sadistic Ducky Boys who seem to suddenly materialize at the opportune moment, are more like social clubs and do little besides partying and hanging out. Any girl that wasnt a virgin, if you went out with her you couldnt let her get away, because there werent many around. I was maybe 16. Factories close up at night, you break in, get what you want, and sell it. They were knife-happy. You push a guy up against a wall with a car, just push him till he hits the wall. It was like one big family. They. If you made someone look bad, theyd wanna retaliate. When the pill came, everything changed. I heard that he was like that because his mother was killed. We went to Our Lady of Lourdes Grammar School on Aberdeen Street. He couldnt show up to collect his rent. Even today, in 2012, the Fordham Baldies still bring memories to many people I have talked to. Ive snorted a lot of cocaine in my fuckin life, but these guys I know who used to do snuff, their noses used to fuckin bleed. We spent a night one time stripping a whole car completely down to the chassis. In 1959, a member of the Dragons was killed in a fight with the Viceroys. There were no drugs then. By the way, there were always fights yet it was all handled with reverence, one on one. Farmer was a polio stricken kid who was attacked by a gang called: "The We had a lot of guys in the gangsometimes we had 40, sometimes we had 60, sometimes we had 100. Was a wild time growing up, some bad, some good, but many learning experiences came from those times. Finally the Youth Squadthe special police squad they set up just to deal with the gang problemgot involved. Youre walking down the street, you see somebody that you dont like, who isnt in your gang. They were on the highway, and the guy said something out the window to his girl, and they went back and forth, then finally pulled off the highway up by Bryant Park. The bullets were just whizzing by my ear. Bellagio99 20:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]. These were all pretty much in the same area and were all converted store fronts with bars. On the next block, one block past Bushwick Avenue, was Aberdeen Park. Prostitution was everywhere too. About Us Site Map Contact Us Great American Youth Book Lords Of Kilbourn Book, Greaser Magazine: "Rising Up Angry:" Stone Greaser Grapevine, Debbie Kozlarek/Carolyn Vandermolen Murders, The Teddy Girls Gang - Great Britain 1950s, Mighty Zulu Nation, Universal Zulu Nation Gang history, Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War, SBB Garfield Boys verses Red Hook Tigers article, Brass Knuckle Tales 50's Street Gang Looks Back, Jimmy the Gent Burke Rest in Peace Article, Harlem Red Wings/Northmen Street Gang article. If they caught you, you were going to get an ass whuppin. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. Giampetruzzi, Bonano, Santanielli and the rest of the Red Wings high tailed it out of the Bronx back to East Harlem, seething over the insults and plotting revenge. Wed break into cars, stuff like that. It was a sanctuary, this rectangle here. They help people out. I removed the references to Brooklyn gangs in popular culture - does not make any sense to have them there - this article is not about Brooklyn. I carried a .25, then later a 9 mm. We started saying, Why dont we make patches? And finally we did. It was where I was going to end up, whether I wanted to or not. That was my opportunity. They were like, "Who's the. Belmont Avenue, near East 189th Street. It was about territory. He used to shake when he walked and shit like that. We had a buyer for every piecenot even from garages. With us in the building, there was security. I'm kind of busy so don't know if I can do much here, but if I come across things that are relevant, I'll add them. Thats how popular heroin was. Robert Beer, Ph.D. (JMH 634) We were like, Nah, dont fuck with them. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. Want to go to the college that inspired <i>Animal House</i>? Back then, if a car sat for a day, wed strip it. They punctured his lung and he almost died. Having an Active Minds Chapter in your school can be an important step in changing the conversation about mental health. You lived in one building, and the buildings to your left and right were abandoned, because they were gutted out by fires. The last thing we wanted was heat on the block. This time it was a Red Wings invasion. I do think a cross-reference to similar Brooklyn movies (and Mean Streets) makes sense, but as a Wiki neophyte and busy guy, I don't have the time to do it. It would scare people. I think he got arrested. We ran up there, disassembled a few chimneys, and took some bricks and some bottles. I used to walk around with a gun every day. The reputation of the Baldies name had preceded them and the mere mention of Baldies, was good enough to get everyone worried about an impending gang attack. Unless you also plan on making an article for the early 20th century, I'd suggest you leave of 'mid'. They werent very accurate, either. This is my hood. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. Like one time, I saw it was clear through so I just patched it up, and forgot about it. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. They knew it was my kid brother, but all the witnesses were saying it was me. I didnt do that. Ernests son is now 58 years old and just now found out about his familys history in New York City. But I wasnt there, I just wound up getting accused of it. His mind was OK, but hed be talking and hed start laughing cause he couldnt help it. We never really had any problem with the Hasidics. Its cheaper than coke, and you get whacked on it. I saw him on the corner at South 10th and Bedford, and I started shooting. For each institution, films are listed by release date, starting with the most recent. The gang was started around 1955 by the older guys. The son made it seem like it was a burglary, and we made off with all his weapons. You get high. Then you had the Satans Souls for a while, who were on South 5th and Hoover. Then he became the President of the Majestics. I never did, but I know there were guys in the gang that did. He was invincible. Both Frank and Vincent were packing fully loaded automatic pistols. Id get up, go to my friends house at eight in the morning, and knock on his door. Astoria. And I think using full years instead of century description is better. Someone happened to see two of the guys from the Arabian Knights so we pulled over. The Dukes were on Roebling and South 3rd, over to South 1st. I mean, I know I never did it. Then they got out of the cars a second time and the guy ran away and Frankie ran after him. And then when youre like 13 or 14, you start to hang out a little bit and the older guys start to notice you and start to talk to you and before you knew it youd been groomed into what they were. I think I was under that car for half an hour, until I heard my guys yelling my name. For instance, my friend Dusty got stabbed, and he came back from the Bronx really late, and I hung out with him the whole night at the hospital. In football, the Rams play in the Patriot League of NCAA Division 1 Football Championship Subdivision. Fordham Baldies is on Facebook. Forget about iteverywhere you went, every corner, the drugs were there. Our "uniform" was teal bowling shirts with black velvet vertical stripes. Thats where the money was. The Fordham Rams are the varsity sports teams for Fordham University.Their colors are maroon and white. I doubt anyone walking down the street knew that in 1954 Ernest was killed and Bernard and Angelo were severely injured in a gang war. They had me in the bullpen with him when the witnesses came. Mostly it was breaking into factories in Brooklyn. There would be a fight set up, and we told you to be there at seven oclock. In the 60s, the Puerto Ricans and blacks were coming in like there was no tomorrow. Search . The 70s was real nice. They didnt like me too much. Then you had all these other little clubs in between. Eventually, though, it got to where you were lucky to get within a block of each other. We were trying to imitate them. Dion, whose last name is DiMucci, had been a member of the Bronx, New York street gang the Fordham Baldies when he joined musical forces with Carlo Mastrangelo, Freddy Milano, and Angelo D'Aleo, who were part of a rival gang, the Imperial Hoods. We protected women. They werent really that strong of a weapon. Its something you die for, like a flag. Unlike the idiotic movie the wanderers, however, they didn't have any blacks in the gang, they went around to other neighborhoods to see if they could find some to beat up. So Id go back to the club, feed myself, feed my man and whoever else was there. Theyd hang around. But you gotta remember one thing: When we were kids, we didnt have to kill anybody. Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.32.229.106 (talk) 11:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]. His father was a building super. It was an opportunistic thing. We were just crooks, you know what I mean? Now were going to wear these denim jackets with patches on them. And then all of a sudden, youd find yourself claiming a piece of Brooklyn as your fuckin real estate. Wed look down on them and theyd look up at us. I stayed in there for what seemed like three hours, but it was probably 15 minutes. The Woodside Chiefs, teenage boys, were self funded. The bullet penetrated his abodmen wall and because of the injury his leg became gangrenous and he had to have his right leg amputated several inches above the knee. It was a bunch of detectives whose primary job was to try and keep tabs on the gangs and see what was going on. Pichon, President of the original Latin Kings of Highbridge Park, '63, currently living in the West Coast. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety. Egyptian Dragons". I ran up and down the fire escape, taking a lot of the tenants out. 1926), Words gane to the kitchen,And words gane to the ha,That Marie Hamilton gangs wi bairnTo the hichest Stewart of a.Unknown. They True, that could be any college. I used to steal a lot from factories. It was an abandoned building. Not many fights broke out there. Italians were Italians in those days. The Duckies got their name because the original guys hung out at the Duck pond in the Bronx Botanical Gardens and shot at the ducks with slingshots, therefore, they eventually called themselves "Duckies". There were also after school programs Stephanie went to that had a lot of activities for the kids. Problem-wise, you know, we had a few here and there. I left my mothers house when I was 14. This was not the end of the Red Wings gang, however. Our drug of choice then was heroin. I would say, three out of every five shootouts, somebody would get hit. Then Id go into this one restaurant, talk to the guy I knew there, find out if there was any food from breakfast left99 percent of the time there wasand hed pack it up and give it to me. We had no real guns, just the ones that we made, which were a joke. What they had at that time was called the Youth Squad. Montuoro, who was 25, was not in the Baldies but did have a criminal record for assault and robbery in 1947 and possession of a firearm in 1949. If somebody says, Oh, let me see your colors, turn around, its not something you do. And a lot of these girls from these clubs, let me tell you, a lot of them could have been better fighters than Alis daughter. It goes something like this: While at school, a rumour makes the rounds that the Baldies are coming to the school (insert school name here). Students are in an uproar and are on pins and needles, waiting for a Baldy invasion. It made his brain all fucked-up. They said, Why should I buy drugs to sell when I can steal his and sell them? It happened all the time. Like 12 or 13. DiVincenzo and Caleo were both members of the Baldies but had no criminal record. Ducking from shootouts and things like that. And that would touch it off right away, because theyd start yelling back at us, and before you knew it, wed be running down on the railroad tracks, theyd be running up. I think I shot two or three times with my .25 before it jammed. Not embarrassed to say I was a member and yes, they were very real. Sometimes wed say, Come on up. However, when they got there, the Fordham Baldies who had been frequenting Orchard Beach on a regular basis, found out the Red Wings were hanging out on Section 17 of the beach. 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